I recently read an article about generation Y women in Australia who are “embarrassed” to breastfeed in public and find it uncomfortable. I believe in free choice and if someone choose not to feed in public I would not be offended in anyway in the same way that I would not be offended if they choose to feed their bub in public but this did get me thinking about my attitude towards feeding in public. The article is here if anyone wants to read it.
I had always thought I would be much more comfortable doing it in Australia as I had thought it would be more acceptable there but to tell you the truth since Noah was born I have had no issues feeding in public here in Japan, when the need arose. In fact, I have fed Noah in starbucks, on a train platform (this was an emergency, I probably wouldn`t have done this but we hopped on the wrong train and it was well past the time we should of been home and he was starving so I topped him up for 5 minutes while waiting for the train), in restaurants, on a park bench, at friends houses and more and honestly have not thought twice about doing this. If I am close to a baby room then I will usually go there. I have not fed on a train but if I had a seat and it was a long train ride (ie, shinkansen or even to the otherside of Tokyo) then I would probably do it. I would cover up (I have a breastfeeding cover) but the truth is I cover up not over my own embarrassment but because I do not want to offend anyone and well, I have never seen a Japanese woman feed in public so while nobody has ever said anything to me directly I figure covering up would be the polite thing to do.
Has anyone here had issues with feeding their babies in public? What about in Australia or other countries? I am curious to hear others experiences. The only time I have had a negative response was in a cafe at the Edo Museum in Ryogoku when I fed in a cafe there- nobody said anything to me directly but an elderly couple stared at me a lot and spoke about the fact I was feeding Noah although not directly to me. Shun was with me then actually and said he was surprised that anyone even noticed since I had covered Noah up to feed him.
In my own home no matter who is around I feed Noah as I would normally. If they are male friends I usually say “Im going to feed Noah now” and then if the choose to move out of eyesight that is their choice, actually I would probably say this no matter who was around just so that they could choose whether to stay within eyesight or not.
In someone else`s home I will feed him as well but usually I will ask if they want me to cover up (especially if they are Japanese)- at my in-laws house I feed Noah and I don`t use a breastfeeding cover (I used to but honestly it was too hot for Noah as they keep their heater on all the time) but I put a little towel near his face so no-one can see anything and I always say “I am going to feed him now” so that if BIL, MIL, FIL or anyone doesn`t want to see anything they know not to look.
Recently I fed him at my student`s house and I put a cover on but he got so hot so I asked her if she minded if I took the cover off and she said it was fine. When I first started teaching her she was still breastfeeding her baby and she always covered up and I figured that was her choice although I would not have been at all offended if she choose not to. While I feed in public I do look for a baby room whenever possible because I don`t actually like having to cover him up to feed (as he doesn`t like it and it makes us both hot) but I will of course cover him if I do feed in a cafe/restaurant/park etc…
I know that my feelings (ie, okay to breastfeed in public) are not felt by all but I think it is a personal choice. Just like breastfeeding vs formula debate. While I breastfeed I definitely wouldn`t look down on someone who formula fed their child especially seeing as I maintained throughout my pregnancy that if breastfeeding didn`t work for Noah & I that I wouldn`t beat myself up about it…
There are laws in Australia to prevent places from discriminating against breastfeeding mothers- they are state based (to the best of my knowledge anyway) and apparently Western Australia does not have these laws and their was an outrage last year when a breastfeeding mother was asked to leave a hotel restaurant because she was feeding her 7 month old in public. Does anyone know if Japan has any laws like this? Could I be asked to leave a restaurant if I fed Noah? What about if I fed him without a cover? Does this make a difference?
Does seeing mothers breastfeed in public offend you? What is your opinion on this issue?
I know that this topic can cause some debate but I ask that any comments you make be kept in a friendly context (although I have absolutely no problem with people saying they wouldn`t feed in public or would prefer not to see others feed in public- just be nice about it!)- I am interested in hearing others experiences, thoughts etc…
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I am just a twenty something Aussie girl living in Chiba, Japan with my Japanese husband trying to make sense of the crazy Japanese world we live in! We welcomed our first son in December 2009 (Noah) and a second son in January 2011, 2 months premature (Shion). I am working hard at raising them to be confident, bilingual, happy kids!
I haven’t had kids yet, so at the moment I feel a bit shy about it, but I’m sure like anything, once you do it enough you wouldn’t worry about it. I think it’s polite to consider those around you, not just the comfort of yourself and your child, but when it comes to the crunch and you’ve got a hungry screaming baby and you’ve left your cover-up at home, I think you’d chose to feed him/her without covering up.
It’s funny how breast exposure is considered taboo in Western culture and Eastern culture so it seems. I lived in Papua New Guinea as a child, so it was normal to see women without tops on breast-feeding in public.
I’ve breastfed in public quite a bit.. usually I use my cover as I’m a bit shy and want to cover up my tummy and stretch marks too lol. Usually in male company (non-family) I’ll use the cover at home but if its female friends (esp. those with kids) it doesn’t bother me to just whip it out – as of course you have seen in person. haha.
I’ve (personally) never had negative issues while feeding out and about! Will be interesting to see the responses you get here!!
I think in the US there are some super conservative areas where it is frowned upon but I didn’t have any issues when I went back for Christmas although the state I live in is one of the most liberal when it comes to things like that.
I actually think I was more comfortable feeding Joey in public in Japan that I was when I would feed him in the UK. I have never had a negative experience in either country and I also never used a BF-ing cover, I would just be as discreet as possible. I think that it is less discussed in Japan so people just get on and do it whereas in the UK (or elsewhere) it has become a big issue that people get upset about (on both sides of the coin) so people are more conscious about their choices. That said, I think that these days, alot of women are more uncomfortable bottle feeding in public for fear of being lynched by the “breast is best” brigade. I don’t think they have any laws about BF-ing in public in Japan and you would be more likely to have randoms coming over to prod you and your boobs than someone coming to tell you that you had to stop feeding Noah!!
If I am honest, I have been made to feel uncomfortable in public when other people were BF-ing. One of my friends is quite “blessed” in the boob area and basically used to get a whole boob out to feed, which I would find quite embarrassing, which was very silly and unnecessary but at the same time, as someone who BF-ed Joey for two years, I didn’t really see the need to “put it all on show” as it were!! (I am talking about in public places, it is obviously different when you get your boobs out in the privacy of your own home..)
Interestingly, reading and writing about BF-ing always makes my boobs tingle in the way they used to before the milk would let-down. It is funny how something like that can still have a biological affect on me 3 years since I last fed Joey!
I consider breastfeeding a human right. Babies need to be fed often and the breast is from where their food comes from. It’s that simple. I don’t believe there should be any restrictions either explicit or implicit on where or how a mother should breastfeed.
This does not mean that I didn’t feel shy or uncomfortable about breastfeeding in public the first few times. But honestly unless you want to stay home all the time or only go to department stores or start bottle feeding in public (as a friend did whose supply dwindled as a result), there is little choice and you soon get used to it. I didn’t use a proper breastfeeding cover because I actually think they draw more attention to what you are doing than not using one, and philisophically I don’t really believe in hiding the baby while he/she’s feeding. But I did use a shawl just so that my midrift wasn’t showing (or cold!). I never had any problems/unwanted stares or comments from breastfeeding.
I don’t have a problem with anyone breastfeeding wherever and however they please, covered or uncovered, I see nothing objectionable about it. I haven’t breastfed Annika much in public mostly because she was born in the winter and it has been so cold here that I couldn’t imagine exposing myself to the elements like that! I have breastfed in the cab a few times though.
This past week my supply has dwindled a lot because I had to take a medication that wasn’t safe to breastfeed on for like a week, and while I tried to pump to keep my supply up, it is hard to pump exclusively and not have it affect your supply unless you have a really super duper pump I think. For some reason pumping in public makes me much more uncomfortable than breastfeeding in public, maybe because it is hard to be inconspicuous with this plastic thing attached to your boob siphoning out milk like you’re some sort of prize heifer!
I don’t have any kids yet, but I have friends and family who do and they have used shawls or breastfeeding covers when feeding in public (I live in the US). Unless you’re looking for it, it’s hard to tell what’s going on underneath. I doubt breastfeeding would register with most people if a cover was involved. Feed your baby when he needs to be fed and enjoy your time with him!
Haha I think I’m the same as you… I’ve fed Missha just about everywhere, usually covered, but a couple times I forgot my shawl and just fed her as is. I don’t use a shawl at home, or with friends either. It’ll be interesting to see how it goes in the heat of summer…I’d assume Missha would cook and suffocate under a shawl…. mmmm
In Canada women are pretty bitchy about their RIGHTS to feed baby without cover wherever they please (even had a sit in feed baby in H&M protest a while back)…but I felt less comfortable feeding Missha there lol, though it obviously didn’t stop me from doing so.
I haven’t gotten any stares or comments so far though =) Just a “Aaa! Akachan datta!” from an older lady who probably thought I was just wearing a really weird baggy foreign shawl until a hand came out the top and grabbed my face… lol
ohhh good topic.
I breastfed both here and in Australia and I fed my kids everywhere. I am rather unendowed so I really doubt anyone who wasn’t looking for it would have realised what I was doing but I never felt I was doing anything wrong…
The biggest difference I found was how politicised it was in Australia. People would comment ‘good on you. You’re doing the best thing for your baby’ or ‘don’t let anyone tell you you should stop’. I think the older the kid the more comments you get, too. I breastfed until the girls were over a year and they were big kids so looked older than that.
In Japan my FIL thinks it’s the equivalent of me doing a lap dance or something and won’t walk into a room where I’m feeding. Odd as he walks around in seethrough saggy white long johns (ewww!) Mind you knowing that feeding meant a FIL break? Well my kids never went hungry at ojiichans!
My mum used to feed me in public (I’m assuming without a specialised cover) and got quite a bit of negative attention because of it (early 80s) but she didn’t give a crap and continued as was! I don’t know if I’d ever be brave enough to whip one out in public but won’t know till the time comes I guess…
This is such an interesting topic!
I think in Australia it probably depends where you are. In the inner city where suburb where we live just about everyone is militantly pro-breastfeeding (Possibly because of older first-time mothers with higher average level of education? Or just more access to baby health clinics?), to the extent that one of the girls from my mothers group said she was ashamed to bottle feed her baby in public because she felt people gave her dirty looks when they saw her using formula.
I remember when was first feeding Ali I felt a little bit self conscious in public, and I used to try and wear tops with a deep v-neck so I didn’t have to flash my tummy in public, but it quickly became so normal… I remember talking with my mothers group about how strange it is that just a few weeks earlier we would have felt so self conscious about “flashing” strangers, but it quickly becomes the most natural thing. I usually had a muslin square in the nappy bag, and so if it was cold or crowded I would drape that over Ali and me to have a bit more privacy… and as he got older it was useful because as he became more aware of his surroundings he’d get distracted mid-feed. But if I was at home, or there weren’t many people around I’d just feed him without the cover.
The only time I felt a bit weird was when I visited my sister at her university and fed Ali in a cafe there, but that was because it was full of 19 year old boys and no other babies or mums! I think most places you go with a baby it’s not a bit deal.
It did get a bit harder to feed in public as he got older, because he started to get wriggly and tended to pop off mid-feed to look around, which makes it harder to cover up. And because Ali was so big, I hoped that people didn’t think I was feeding a 2-year-old (nothing against extended breastfeeding, I know some people love it, but it wasn’t for me). Luckily, when he started eating more solids I could usually give him some vegies, fruit or crackers when we were out and about and save the feeds for home.
I have loved reading everyone’s opinion on this. It was a great idea for a post, Lulu!!
As I haven’t actually starting breastfeeding yet I can’t say for sure how I am going to be but at the moment I feel slightly embarrassed at the thought of breastfeeding in public. But then again, I am assuming that is just something you get used to. I will probably use the breast feeding cover Sarah bought for me when we are out in public unless it gets too hot for Baby N and then I guess I will just have to be as discreet as possible.
TBH, the thought of breastfeeding in front of my in-laws makes me feel more uncomfortable than breastfeeding in a completely public place… difficult to explain why though!!
Now though, I think the biggest thing worrying me is if I will be able to breastfeed or not! I want to, more than anything, but just have a feeling it’s not going to work for me
Nay – Just in reply to your comment, have you heard about the Australian Breastfeeding Association or the La Leche League? When I lived in Tokyo a girl I knew there had trouble feeding and said LLL were fantastic – they have counsellors and meetings. I’m not sure if there’s an English speaking group near you (http://www.llli.org/Japan.html) but I think they do telephone advice no matter where you are.
And the ABA has a great website, and provides feeding counselling and advice 24 hours by phone or email (http://www.breastfeeding.asn.au/products/counselling.asp). There are ABA forums on feeding issues too. Hopefully you won’t need any of this information, but it’s reassuring when you come home from hospital to know there’s someone trained you can contact if need be.
Well, honestly I haven`t really had to breastfeed in public too much. But mostly that comes down to not really going out too much either. The winter just makes me want to hibernate inside where its warm. Except for when we all met up a few weeks ago usually when we go out there has always been a breastfeeding room that I have used (although there was one there also just no one used it).
I have yet to breastfeed in front of other males besides by husband (and the husband of a friend but I covered up then) I have no problems whipping out the breast in front of other females, I think in front of other males I am likely to use a cover of some kind though mostly because I am shy about it not that I think I am doing anything wrong.
But then again I really shouldn`t be shy, I`ve seen lots of old men in this country (and one guy on the train) whip out parts I would rather not have seen (though the old men were peeing on the side of the road, or buildings).
When I first started breastfeeding, it was so hard to get into the right position. Newborns are so tiny, and I used to feed clutch hold/football hold, so couldn’t really do it without pillows. In those days, I tended to stay indoors. When I WAS out, and I had to feed, I used to go in the car, or in the toilet, but I have to say, I always felt wretched about it. Especially if I was out for a meal with people. Kind of like, why do I have to hide out in here for half an hour?!?
When I got more used to it, and could do it somewhat discreetly (more for other people’s sake, as you said) I did it everywhere. My SIL bought me one of those covers, and said she wouldn’t be offended if I didn’t use it. I tried it, but I just got so tangled up, and worried about Luka being able to breathe (it was summer), that I gave up. I think it’s possible to feed without boobs on display, although personally, I don’t care if women get their whole boob out to feed. I fed on the train, in restaurants, in shops, waiting rooms, cars, planes, pretty much anywhere, because Luka is like me when I am hungry…GRIZZLY!!
In the U.K. it is technically illegal to breastfeed in public. Isn’t that stupid? I think someone getting their bits out for kicks and feeding a baby are two very different things. Breasts, bottles, whatever, mothers shouldn’t feel ashamed to feed their babies in public.
OOh, just wanted to add, I had a LOT of problems breastfeeding for the first three months. Not wanting to get too graphic, but it was awful. I wanted to give up sometimes, but I really wanted to carry on. Especially for Nay, if you have problems, and you want to carry on, La Leche League have some great online support/videos to help you, etc.
I live in Western Australia and I remember that debarcle. I have seen mother’s breastfeeding with half of their boob hanging out and honestly I feel worried for them because there are alot of guys that walk around googley eyed when there is even a small bit to see let alone half a breast (which I saw in the shopping centre here a few weeks back). It makes me wonder if they are doing it because they want to show off or are they totally unaware that most of their boob is showing.
I don’t have a problem with it per se, I was never breastfed because I wouldn’t take it, so I was bottle fed from the beginning. I don’t have kids, but i wouldn’t breastfeed in public, I don’t care to have others watching what I think is a very personal moment between baby and mother and would find a room to do it in or do it in the car or something.
I see alot of women doing it in Australia… they don’t seem to have a problem with whipping it out, but I don’t like the showiness of it all, it seems fake and not really because they have to but because they want to show off. For the real mothers who do it discreetly I have no problem. I couldn’t imagine Yasu letting me breastfeed in public though as he thinks of it as a very personal thing and nothing to share with the world.
Thanks everyone for your opinions and comments. I have really enjoyed reading through them and seeing what others think as this is definitely a controversial issue. It really seems like it is more controversial in other countries though and not so much in Japan.
I am not going to address all the comments individually but I do appreciate those who have commented. I did notice that nobody spoke about Japanese friends that might have fed in public- is this really not done? I haven`t seen anyone but I am not sure- I am going to ask my SIL what she plans to do when I see her next and what her thoughts are since she is pregnant with her first bub. None of my other close Japanese friends really have bubs yet so it is hard to ask I guess…
If there are baby rooms available then I will usually always go there to feed since it is usually more comfortable, usually room for the stroller and plus the added bonus of having a place to change his nappy at the same time!
Midori- I doubt I could ever pull my whole boob out in public without covering a little to feed Noah! I could feed him without a cover but I would have to be semi-discreet about it!
It is interesting that you found it easier to feed in Japan than UK! I wonder if I am still feeding Noah at the end of this year whether I will have issues in Australia?!?
Nay- I was really worried I would have issues breastfeeding too but things worked out okay for us so fingers crossed they do for you too. But the important thing is not to beat yourself up about it if it doesn`t work out. Laura A`s advice about Le Leche is good too!
As for the in-laws thing- you know I am pretty relaxed around my in-laws which I think has helped in this situation- I know that you are not as comfortable around yours as I am with mine but you might change your opinion once bub is here. I never thought I would feed in front of them without covering up but honestly have had no issues.
Suzy- I have some muslin squares- I might have to do that in summer too! Just drape it over us for a bit of privacy (and also so he doesn`t get distracted)
I know that in Australia some people are FANTATIC about the whole “breast is best” thing…even though I breastfeed and am happy with my choice people that are too in your face about it sometimes scare me. I feel like they would hate me if I didn`t breastfeed which is not something a new mother needs.
Laura A- When Noah was 4 weeks old we took my mum back to the airport and I fed Noah in a toilet- like literally in the cubicle and I swore I would never do it again because I wouldn`t want to EAT in a bathroom and felt he shouldn`t either. I do cover him though usually although in summer I think I am just going to have to be a lot more discreet about it but not use a cover as already it is getting to hot for him.
Jessica- Do Chinese women feed in public or is it similar to Japan?
Kelly- your take is interesting because I was hoping someone would explain their reasons if they would prefer not to do or see it done. Like I said in the post I am fine with anyones opinions and figure it is a personal thing. Thanks for chiming in though as it is always nice to read others point of views. Strangely enough Shun has no problems with me breastfeeding in public (although usually cover Noah and my breasts) but I always thought he would- or would be uncomfortable if I did.
Do you mind if I ask what you would do at home if you had visitors over? Would you go to another room to feed?
Suzy, sorry, just saved your other message now from the spam folder (guess because it had links?!) Thanks!
This is an interesting topic – and I haven’t read everyone’s comments. Sorry.
I have fed all the kids in public – but not overly. They have all taken a bottle from early on so if we were going out I would take a bottle and pull the boob out in emrgencies. On the plane home though – boob central.
I didn’t feed in front of blokes – openly. If I was at a friends house I would ask if it was OK to feed and then turn away – more from them being embarrassed over me getting the puppies out infront of them. I have a few friends who do/have got their boobs out to feed whenever, however, whoever. I must be one of the ‘not comfortable with that’ people. Prude I am.
i have seen japanese women NIP, mainly in a restaurant with a cover and all. they can be VERY discreet and you may not notice at all. i did see one lady at a hanami party once feeding her infant, again with the cover-up. i suspect, though, that most J women plan their day around where they can go that has baby rooms for feeding infants, because that is where i mainly saw them feeding their babies! LOL
I have seen Japanese women breastfeeding in public. Some with a cover, some without, some discreetly, others not so much. When my Japanese friend came to visit, she had no qualms about whipping her breast out..made me feel a bit weird when she took forever to cover herself up again?
Hey Lulu – If i had visitors over I would go to another room, yes.
Ha, thanks, I am glad I am not spam!
It is so interesting reading everyone’s thoughts here. I do think it’s hard to predict how you’ll feel about feeding in general and feeding in public before the situation arises. The people surveyed in the article were yet to have babies, so it would be interesting to know if their feelings change when they’re actually in the thick of it. For me, I probably would have said pre-baby that I would prefer to feed in private, but when you have a furiously hungry newborn it feels like the most urgent thing is to stop them crying, and for me getting my baby what he needed asap was much more important than any feelings of shyness or worries about making other people uncomfortable. Having said that, I do think it’s nice if you can plan your day around being able to feed in privacy and comfort, but it doesn’t always work out that way…
Actually Suzy what you said pretty much sums up how I feel! I do realize the survey was amongst those who hadnt had children and my feelings about things DEFINITELY changed after having Noah. I kind of always thought that I would be a set scheduler. Ie, feeds at 7am. 10am, 1pm, 5pm, bath at 6:30pm, feed and then bed but of course babies do not work on this kind of schedule ALL THE TIME.
I try to plan my days around Noah to some extent but if I had to make sure I was home to feed him all the time then I would never be able to go anywhere!!!! I usually don`t leave the house in the mornings until he is fed at least twice, changed and had at least one nap because otherwise it can get difficult!
I never thought I would feel comfortable feeding in public at a restraunt or on the run or what not but once he was born that changed as like you said- when you have a hungry baby that comes first!!!
mmm. Interesting. I’ve lived in Japan and never saw anyone breastfeeding but I think babies are squirrelled away for so long there I’m not even sure they eat!
I had a weird experience in Australia that I now look back on and laugh at, but it pretty representative of some of the population i think;
Great conversation here!! Yay for breastfeeding! If anyone had asked me about my thoughts on bf before I had Jake I would have said…um i have no thoughts on that issue. I was completely bottlefed as were my brothers and sisters and I think we turned out fine.
However I LOVE breastfeeding Jake and still do to this day (he is nearly 2.5). I do feel like it is completely frowned upon to bf a toddler, but we do it now because it is reassuring and comforting for jake not because he needs the milk. The bond is amazing! We can also talk about it now and we virtually never bf in public anymore although we did at the beach once because he was so cold nothing would warm him up – a few minutes bf and he was warmed up and good to go – so useful)
I am not militant at all about bf, but I do believe that a lot of people don’t stick with bf because they don’t have the support and encouragement from those around them. It’s sad because even providing some breast milk is better than none and I don’t think enough is said about the comfort and reassurance that babes get from the entire process. Nearly everyone I know had problems with bf (it is hardly the easy choice…) but my close friends supported each other through the trying times. I have breastfed in public in Japan a lot but I was always very discreet and rarely used a cover – found them a real pain to manage and Jake would always just pull them off. I wouldn’t bare my stomach in public normally so why would I subject anyone to that to bf! ha! I still wear bf tanks under other tops to this day.
Everyone should be able to bf in public – babies need to eat and be reassured – but I do think it is nice to be discreet (I’m a pro – most people never knew what I was doing) and to find a nice quiet spot (if possible) – this is not to spare others the horror of sighting some nipple or gasp flesh – but it is meant to be a calm enjoyable experience anyway…..I did see one lady at a gallery here in Australia with a baby (not newborn) literally hanging off her full breast in the middle of the gallery while she was trying to wrangle her toddler….I was kind of horrified by the whole scene. I felt bad for everyone involved. My whole mother motto is to never judge other mothers because it is the hardest job in the world but if someone needs advice or help I would definitely advocate breastfeeding as an amazing way to bond with their baby!!!
This is not about breastfeeding exactly, but more about travelling with a child which I see you will be likely to do later this year.
We just did a trip down to Adelaide and back with Jetstar. On both flights there were two of us travelling and 3 seats on each side of the aisle, and both times a mother and baby were placed next to us.
Just because the law says that a parent can travel with a baby on your lap does not make it a good idea.
These poor mothers were forced to hold onto their squirming babies without respite for 2 hours. No flight attendant offered to take the child so the parent could have a break. The first flight was not full but at no time did the flight attendant offer to assist the mother to an empty row so that she could get a break.
On the way back I was in the seat next to the mother and baby, and every time the child moved the mother apologised to me. I told her there was no need, but still she felt like she had to say sorry anytime the child so much as wiggled. At the end of the flight she told me how sore her arms were from holding the baby that whole time. I can imagine – not that I have a child myself, but I once carried a 10kg bag of potatoes from the shopping centre to the car which was some distance away and that was painful enough on my arms!
I would hate to have to hold those potatoes for 2 hours solid with no break.
The worst things about flying with a child are two –
1. that law says you must have an approved baby seat to take your child in a car, but will allow you to fly in an aircraft going an awful lot faster than a car ever would with the baby just held in your arms.
http://www.jetwithkids.com/book_freeChapter.html
2. That nobody explains to parents the reason why their child cries on a flight. It has to do with their ears. Children are not able to hold their nose and blow to equalize the pressure on their ears
http://www.travelwithyourkids.com/on-the-plane/airplane-ear-plugs
Eucalyptus oil always works for me and I have really bad ears myself, if you put some on a tissue and hold it under the childs nose it will assist their ear tubes to unblock.
Flights are so cheap these days – I personally would recommend that if you can manage it, get a seat for Noah and if you can, use a car seat on the plane.
http://www.travelwithyourkids.com/on-the-plane/should-you-use-a-car-seat-on-the-plane
Anyway I just thought that might be useful info.
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